Episode 5 – Pierre Shaw, Architect

‘Some people are really for training people for work. They think the current system even is too long. It teaches you 3, or even 5 years, of concept design stuff then you’re thrown into the world and realise you don’t really know anything. I get that argument, but I’m still really for spending as long as you can in an environment where your ideas can be completely let loose. There’s so much freedom there. It’s beneficial for anyone to go through that process.

-Pierre Shaw

In this episode I’m joined by architect, Pierre Shaw. I was fascinated to hear all about an industry that I wasn’t all that familiar with. What really really stands out about this conversation to me however is Pierre’s insight and thoughts to how limiting creativity can be so detrimental. Early in the conversation we discuss how school’s, for example, main focus is training people for the work place and thus putting walls and blocks around any thinking that didn’t fit that criteria.

Noticing these gaps in education, Pierre launched SOS (School of Speculation) in an effort to help supplement higher education and offer people the opportunity to think creatively without having unnecessary limits and to teach and allow for critical thinking. The conversation I had with Pierre, who is really big in critical thinking, reminded me that it’s important to question things and not take everything at face value. Even now 4 years later I think this lesson is pertinent and perhaps one I’ve let slip over those years. There are always ways to do things differently, sometimes it’s easier to listen to that person in power, whether it’s your boss, your teacher or a client, but if we take a step back and really think about what we’re doing, perhaps we’ll see that isn’t the only or necessarily the best route.

Pierre: Some people are really for training people for work. They think the current system even is too long. It teaches you 3, or even 5 years, of concept design stuff then you’re thrown into the world and realise you don’t really know anything. I get that argument, but I’m still really for spending as long as you can in an environment where your ideas can be completely let loose. There’s so much freedom there. It’s beneficial for anyone to go through that process.

Jared: I think that’s a good point. To really just experience the full flow of creativity without any blocks in the way.

Pierre: Yeah, and to be encouraged to go as far as you can with that. I think that’s when fundamentals start to get questioned. That’s really exciting.

Jared: I see what you mean. Breaking walls, like pushing yourself, but also the limits of what all ready exist.

Pierre: Yeah, I think that’s why universities have always been the place for new ideas, people pushing the boundaries. I think it’s a real shame that we’re sort of moving towards training for work.

Pierre’s perspective here is great, he’s really passionate about ideas and creating and making sure people are afforded that time and space to really explore. I really respect where he’s coming from, the idea of just creating without any limitations, truly letting the brain work it’s magic. I think it can apply to everything we make, we can think big and workout how it’s going to work logistically in the real world after the fact. Let’s aim not to limit our initial ideas.

Listen to this episode of Creative Connection on Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts & Spotify to hear more of Pierre’s perspectives on creativity, his process whilst designing and his School of Speculation.

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